Photographer's Note
‘Kathmandu - Pashupatinath - In search of a real sadhu’
For Kasia
Recently, Kasia showed a photo of sadhus (Hindu holy men who have given up on all worldly possessions) in Varanasi, India.
I believe I saw sadhus on my first journeys to India in the 90's. Those men were not colourfully dressed then. On the contrary, they were barely clothed.
During my stay in Hampi, Karnataka in 2017, I met a multicoloured dressed man with painted forehead who bystanders told me he was a temple guard (he didn't speak English himself) but another photo on this site presented him as a sadhu.
When I was in Nepal on my last journey in 2019, the number of sadhus there seemed to be much greater than in the places I visited in India (However, I’ve never been in Varanasi).
At least in and around the Pashupatinath Temple, a Hindu temple in Kathmandu you could see many sadhus. Real or fake sadhus, that remains the question.
Since the Pashupatinath Temple is one of the oldest and most sacred Hindu temples in Nepal, I paid it a visit.
At the entrance I was approached by a man who proposed to guide me. Somehow he was able to convince me that he had a lot of interesting information about the temple and its numerous buildings in the quite large complex, while the amount asked for his tour was very reasonable.
I agreed and have not regretted it at all.
As soon as we entered I saw a very striking figure, a man in particularly colourful clothing, while two western visitors were taking pictures of him.
I asked my guide if this was a sadhu but he denied. The man was a fake sadhu who dressed like this in order to get money from westerners.
I then indicated that I would like to see a real sadhu and my guide assured me that before the end of the tour we would certainly have met real sadhus.
The tour was very interesting. I will show pictures of the Pashupatinath Temple later. Kasia certainly showed at least one of it. I seem to remember her photo of the cremations.
But as the tour progressed, I saw more and more men dressed in extremely coloured clothing and with forehead paintings. However, each time my guide warned that these were fake sadhus and not worth taking a photo of.
However, we saw so many of those sadhus who were always labeled as false sadhus. At least by my guide.
Moreover, these men turned out to be quite successful with the photographing visitors.
There were so many of them in various places of the large complex and I started to suspect that this temple was a meeting place for fake sadhus :)
The tour was very instructive but as it progressed, I regretted not taking a picture of one of those fake sadhus. However, at the end, my guide repeated his promise to show a real sadhu.
So we climbed up the hill again and passed some buildings. The man seemed clearly to be heading for a target. Arriving behind a certain building, he turned and proudly said 'Behold, two real sadhus' and I indeed saw two men with long hair, painted foreheads and clothes with which you would not walk unnoticed in the street.
I had asked my guide in time how much a tip would be for taking a photo. A tip that would not be excessive but also not too stingy. I don't remember the amount but it seemed very reasonable.
The man dressed in red appeared sympathetic and began a friendly conversation.
I took some pictures and paid the amount my guide told me in advance and the sadhu seemed to find it correct.
So far everything as expected.
But before leaving, the man dressed in yellow called to me, bent over, and whispered in my ear ‘fifty dollars’ …
Then I understand that a real sadhu is not just waiting somewhere for a tourist that might show up.
A man who has chosen for a life of religion and have given up on all worldly possessions doesn’t suddenly find US dollars important.
First of all, I would never pay that much to take a picture of someone. In addition, in Nepal fifty dollars is a considerable sum for many people who have little.
So I just smiled and walked away. A little disillusionment richer. Just a little one.
The search for a real sadhu turned out not to be so easy.
Were there real sadhus in the Pashupatinath Temple that was visited daily by so many people (and many foreigners)?
However, not far from these two ‘sadhus’ sat a third man with less clothes and he asked nothing at all.
Perhaps someone who has given up on all worldly possessions? See photo in the WS.
Best not to wonder too much.
Just to put it clear: If you ever go to Kathmandu, you should definitely visit the Pashupatinath Temple, but it’s best not to search too much for real sadhus.
CMJC, Fis2, holmertz, NickVu, Royaldevon, jhm, pierrefonds, jean113, worldcitizen, ktanska, COSTANTINO, jemaflor, aliabazari, mcmtanyel marcou esta nota como útil
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ikeharel
(113345) 2022-01-20 0:46
Hello Paul,
One in red and one in yellow, attractive picture of those special character Sadhu's. Excellent capture.
Have a nice new day,
Ike
Fis2
(170747) 2022-01-20 0:56
Witaj Paul!
A very curious photos.
This photo looks like a photo of Kasia!
Good frames and superb colors.
The faces and outfits are impressive.
TFS.
Welld one.
Good morning.
Krzysztof
CMJC
(5097) 2022-01-20 1:00 [Comment]
holmertz
(102700) 2022-01-20 1:15
Hello Paul,
I suspect a "real sadhu" is someone who will give a commission to your guide. Dressing and painting yourself like this sounds like a reasonably profitable job. Just like many times before I feel that you are much too generous with giving away good photos for free by putting them in the WS. Or worse: those who never look at WS photos will miss a lot of interesting views. Both additional photos today are very interesting and well taken and deserve to be seen by all remaining active members of the site (20-30?).
My compliments also to the entertaining note.
Best regards,
Gert
Royaldevon
(85932) 2022-01-20 3:11
Hello Paul,
I read your notes and studied your photographs with interest.
In a place which is frequented by many tourists and where most people have very little, it is not really surprising that there are charlatans, eager to deceive people and sustain a successful living!
The sadhus look very convincing, in their colourful attire and painted faces; it must be very difficult to determine which are real and which fake. There will have to be a certain amount of trust between the tourist and the guide to determine who is 'real'.
Whatever the circumstances, if you had been unaware of this desire of some to deceive, you would have been perfectly happy with this photograph, well composed, colourful and rekindling memories of a place so different from home. (I thought sadhus went barefoot and this man has a pair of sandals in the b/g. Could that be a clue?)
I read your notes and those of Kasia (earlier) and enjoyed the narrative very much. I doubt I will ever go to Tibet or Nepal but I certainly enjoy sharing your adventures.
My warm regards,
Bev :-)
Silvio1953
(221593) 2022-01-20 3:15
Ciao Paul, nice scene with fantastic couple, wonderful bright colors, excellent clarity, splendid light and fine details, very well done, my friend, ciao Silvio
jhm
(211736) 2022-01-20 6:03
Goedemiddag Paul,
Ik vind deze van jou lijken me meer echt dan deze van Malgo.
Maar ik ken er helemaal niet van
Alleen mag ik zeggen dat uw foto van goede kwaliteit zijn
En echt kleuren weergeven.
Ook de twee WS foto mogen er wezen.
Goed foto werk, bedankt.
Prettige dag verder,
John
pierrefonds
(114448) 2022-01-20 8:21
Bonjour Paul,
Vous avez bien capturé l'expression sérieuse des hommes. Laprise de vue permet de voir les détails de la physionomie des sâdhus et de leurs vêtements. La lumière fait ressortir les couleurs. Bonne journée.
Pierre
mkamionka
(74407) 2022-01-20 8:21
Hi Paul,
Does it mean that you left without paying for this photo?
It is quite an awkward situation.
I remember in Turkey when I wanted to buy some Turkish specialties. It was in Side a very touristic place. The price they quoted for nougat was 10 times the price in the UK so I started to bargain and they started to yell at me that they are not savages and they don't bargain. Just in case to avoid situations like that I don't like photographing "traditionally" dressed people walking around the ruins. In Egypt it was quite obvious for me that "traditionally" dressed people were not real life locals but people trying to earn money.
At least these two guys had really very brightly colored outfits, ha ha
Very well done,
M
jean113
(27853) 2022-01-20 9:32
Hello Paul, I read your notes very carefully, all very interesting.
What a dilemma, fake or real, who knows?
Giving money puts you in, maybe, an uncomfortable position, is it too much or is it enough? You did the right thing refusing the second man's request.
Three excellent pictures.
Like Beverley, I cannot see me ever visiting this part of the world, so all your posts are very informative.
Kind regards, Jean.
worldcitizen
(16072) 2022-01-20 10:23
Hello Paul,
That was quite a story in your note, but in the end at least you got a very colorful and interesting photo! The man in red has even colored his beard, and both sadhus command attention. Nice shot. :-)
ktanska
(44766) 2022-01-20 10:35
Hi Paul,
Wow those are bright dresses! The orange beard is quite special too. Great note! At least these two ure used to posing for photographers.
Kari
lousat
(139266) 2022-01-20 11:37
Hi Paul,I just saw Malgo's post and read your notes, and I can only confirm my theory that you understand the true and the false between asking for money or other things ... Beautiful photos no doubt, colorful models or real as they are, they are certainly very attractive to photographers. Have a nice evening and thanks,Luciano
emka
(158156) 2022-01-20 14:00
Hello Paul, Very interesting (and long) note about your adventure In this Pashupatinath. I looked at other photos on TE from this place. There are many pictures of various sadhus, who knows were real or fake. So it seems that not Varanasi, but P. is the place where we can meet them.I notice that the authors of many photos - Yquem and vincz passed away some years ago.
These two are very colourful so it was worth giving them some money.
I planned to go to Nepal, it was high on my list, who would think that it would be so difficult or rather impossible.
Best regards MAlgo
ifege
(48085) 2022-01-20 21:50
Hi Paul
Ah! The traps of money chasers in tourist destinations.
The WS one certainly looks more genuine whilst the very attractive main photo also looks less likely. An interesting trio of photos.
cheers
Ian
COSTANTINO
(116490) 2022-01-20 22:42
Hello dear Paul
have a pleasant week end
original version for me
you had the same inspiration with Kasia
who showed a photo of sadhus in Varanasi
India
a colorful photo in front of my eyes
thanks for the description in order
to understand better what we see
here...great experience to meet a
multicolored dressed man with painted
forehead who told you that he was a temple
guard but another photo presented hiM AS A SADHU
great experience for you
regards
costantino
jemaflor
(147128) 2022-01-20 23:38
Salut Paul,
Beaux portraits de ces sadhu, parfait rendu avec cette netteté et ces teintes, joli contraste avec ces couleurs lumineuses, intéressante note au sujet de ces sadhus, merci du partage.
aliabazari
(22175) 2022-01-21 20:33
Hello Paul
A good portrait of these two sados. Good sharpness and colors are impressive. I'm not happy to hear about real or fake sados.
jmdias
(115156) 2022-01-22 23:47
paul
looks like the sadhus in the main post are twins. haha.
while my 3 weeks crossing india I never saw a sadhu, fake or not. I asked my guide and he said they were here and there and I hadn't noticed them.
for most of tourists a fake or not fake sadhu will be the same, only an exotic personage to show friends after the trip. anyway you got very nice images.
take care
jorge
mcmtanyel
(68503) 2022-02-06 17:06
Hello Paul,
These sadhus are eye-catchers with their bold colored attire and makeup.
Regards,
MT
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